what first keywords or products ?

[roddy]

which one do you think is smarter what works for you?
 I tend to start with kewords that i think are week and have a large market then find a product for the  area

[SEOidiot]

if its organic im after then kw is deffo the first place

if its ppc then its product first...

imo

[roddy]

intresting i just find that on my travels i find standardized quires like how to solve baldness now thats useless for me because
the dollars that are being spent on baldness are by brands with deep pockets who didnt expect to break Evin on there pay per click on the first sale there investing in buying a long term customer but if i then take the start of that query  how to solve then with a bit of digging i will hit some nice what i call ugly terms like how to solve penice warts this one will be a great term for me because when most people look for a product to sell they look at consumer leisure or markiting products i look for human condition products things that happen to people problems that need fixing that people would rather not think about! so i will take penice warts over cheep broadband any day of the week were theres muck theres money

[SEOidiot]

If i didnt know better i would swear your watching me.....

Ill admit im losing my hair but im not admitting to warts on my john thomas...

[dink]

I voted products first. 

I hear about a neato product, look for a good merchant, get keywords and build out.

[lonmb]

Can we think about both at the same time, maybe?